PT 8 crashes on close, old session - crash log incl

Here are my specs os 10.6.5 proc- 2x2.66 GHx Dual_Core Intel Xeon memory- 10GB Pt-8.1cs2 Whats happening- When i open an old session everything is smooth, things run fine. but after i close it PT crashes, then if i try to launch pt again the computer crashes. its lame here is part of my crash log- i can email the rest of it Process: Pro Tools HD [170] Path: /Applications/Digidesign/Pro Tools/Pro Tools HD.app/Contents/MacOS/Pro Tools HD Identifier: com.digidesign.ProToolsHD Version: 8.1cs2 (8.1f513) Code Type: X86 (Native) Parent Process: launchd [124] Date/Time: 2011-02-10 17:51:08.740 -0500 OS Version: Mac OS X 10.6.5 (10H574) Report Version: 6 Interval Since Last Report: -4881 sec Crashes Since Last Report: 3 Per-App Interval Since Last Report: -4912 sec Per-App Crashes Since Last Report: 3 Anonymous UUID: 3F249AB9-F2A8-49D2-8AEF-0D87EBE22DDB Exception Type: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGSEGV) Exception Codes: 0x000000000000000d, 0x0000000000000000 Crashed Thread: 15 Thread 0: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread 0 dyld 0x8fe03bde dyld::validImage(ImageLoader const*) + 38 1 dyld 0x8fe0aee9 dlsym + 543 2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x911d2cf0 dlsym + 85 3 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x92566245 _CFBundleDlfcnGetSymbolByNameWithSearch + 133 4 com.digidesign.mixer.stereo 0x22f6560b CDSPDoHostCommand + 5307 5 com.digidesign.framework.DSI 0x037b09dc ChangeYBits + 44 6 com.digidesign.framework.DSI 0x037bc9a9 Dhm_TDM2_MapWrites + 23833 7 com.digidesign.framework.DSI 0x037bbc85 Dhm_TDM2_MapWrites + 20469 8 com.digidesign.framework.DSI 0x037bb318 Dhm_TDM2_MapWrites + 18056 9 com.digidesign.framework.DSI 0x037b68d8 Dhm_TDM2_TxZeroToSlot + 72 10 com.digidesign.framework.DAE 0x03269ebc FicGetSyncPeripheral + 6448 11 com.digidesign.framework.DAE 0x03269f25 FicGetSyncPeripheral + 6553 12 com.digidesign.framework.DAE 0x03269fd6 FicGetSyncPeripheral + 6730 13 com.digidesign.framework.DAE 0x0326302b FicUnlockAllMemoryBlocks + 21561 14 com.digidesign.framework.DAE 0x0326354f FicUnlockAllMemoryBlocks + 22877 15 com.digidesign.framework.DAE 0x032635fa FicUnlockAllMemoryBlocks + 23048 16 com.digidesign.framework.DAE 0x032239d3 FWAudioCallback + 223969 17 com.digidesign.framework.DAE 0x03223642 FWAudioCallback + 223056 18 com.digidesign.framework.DAE 0x032229fe FWAudioCallback + 219916 19 com.digidesign.framework.DAE 0x0326818b FicFreeConnection + 17 20 ...gidesign.framework.ProTools 0x00c088d1 0x7db000 + 4380881 21 ...gidesign.framework.ProTools 0x00c08e3f 0x7db000 + 4382271 22 ...gidesign.framework.ProTools 0x00c1f548 0x7db000 + 4474184 23 ...gidesign.framework.ProTools 0x00c78718 0x7db000 + 4839192 24 ...gidesign.framework.ProTools 0x00cbb8c4 0x7db000 + 5114052 25 ...gidesign.framework.ProTools 0x00cbc24e 0x7db000 + 5116494 26 ...gidesign.framework.ProTools 0x00cbcc80 0x7db000 + 5119104 27 ...gidesign.framework.ProTools 0x00fa3735 0x7db000 + 8161077 28 ...gidesign.framework.ProTools 0x009d2322 0x7db000 + 2061090 29 ...gidesign.framework.ProTools 0x00fa53ce 0x7db000 + 8168398 30 com.digidesign.framework.DFW 0x0242fc74 TApplication::MenuEvent(long, bool) + 52 31 com.digidesign.framework.DFW 0x02537f65 TApplication::GetApplicationVersionComponents(Cmn_ PolyVector<long, false>*) + 2469 32 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x935a8eef DispatchEventToHandlers(EventTargetRec*, OpaqueEventRef*, HandlerCallRec*) + 1567 33 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x935a81b6 SendEventToEventTargetInternal(OpaqueEventRef*, OpaqueEventTargetRef*, HandlerCallRec*) + 411 34 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x935ca97b SendEventToEventTarget + 52 35 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x935f6f67 SendHICommandEvent(unsigned long, HICommand const*, unsigned long, unsigned long, unsigned char, void const*, OpaqueEventTargetRef*, OpaqueEventTargetRef*, OpaqueEventRef**) + 448 36 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x9361bcdc SendMenuCommandWithContextAndModifiers + 66 37 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x9361bc91 SendMenuItemSelectedEvent + 121 38 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x937a792b _HIMenuSendItemSelectedEvent + 83 39 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x93756ae2 HIMenuBar::HandleKeyboardEvent(OpaqueEventRef*) + 304 40 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x935a94eb HIObject::EventHook(OpaqueEventHandlerCallRef*, OpaqueEventRef*, void*) + 173 41 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x935a8eef DispatchEventToHandlers(EventTargetRec*, OpaqueEventRef*, HandlerCallRec*) + 1567 42 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x935a81b6 SendEventToEventTargetInternal(OpaqueEventRef*, OpaqueEventTargetRef*, HandlerCallRec*) + 411 43 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x935a8015 SendEventToEventTargetWithOptions + 58 44 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x935dc72c ToolboxEventDispatcherHandler(OpaqueEventHandlerCa llRef*, OpaqueEventRef*, void*) + 1918 45 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x935a9340 DispatchEventToHandlers(EventTargetRec*, OpaqueEventRef*, HandlerCallRec*) + 2672 46 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x935a81b6 SendEventToEventTargetInternal(OpaqueEventRef*, OpaqueEventTargetRef*, HandlerCallRec*) + 411 47 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x935ca97b SendEventToEventTarget + 52 48 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x93753cc3 ToolboxEventDispatcher + 86 49 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x93753dfb RunApplicationEventLoop + 243 50 com.digidesign.framework.DFW 0x0253e5cb DFW_EventLoop::RunApplicationEventLoop() + 11 51 com.digidesign.framework.DFW 0x0242d253 TApplication::Run() + 45 52 ...gidesign.framework.ProTools 0x0147c693 LaunchProTools + 1567 53 com.digidesign.ProToolsHD 0x0000ad2c 0x1000 + 40236 54 com.digidesign.ProToolsHD 0x00004943 0x1000 + 14659 55 com.digidesign.ProToolsHD 0x00004871 0x1000 + 14449 Thread 1: Dispatch queue: com.apple.libdispatch-manager 0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x911ca982 kevent + 10 1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x911cb09c _dispatch_mgr_invoke + 215 2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x911ca559 _dispatch_queue_invoke + 163 3 libSystem.B.dylib 0x911ca2fe _dispatch_worker_thread2 + 240 4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x911c9d81 _pthread_wqthread + 390 5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x911c9bc6 start_wqthread + 30 Thread 2: 0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x911a4136 semaphore_wait_trap + 10 1 ...idesign.framework.digitrace 0x067cf343 XThreads_RawEvent::Wait(unsigned long) + 39 2 ...idesign.framework.digitrace 0x067d2d4d CWriteBehinder::DoWriteBehind() + 47 3 ...idesign.framework.digitrace 0x067d2e97 CWriteBehinderThread::StartWriteBehinder() + 21 4 ...idesign.framework.digitrace 0x067d2fe1 XThreads_RawThread::TaskEntryPoint(void*) + 19 5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x911d185d _pthread_start + 345 6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x911d16e2 thread_start + 34 Thread 3: 0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x911a40fa mach_msg_trap + 10 1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x911a4867 mach_msg + 68 2 ...gn.framework.CoreFoundation 0x00360237 Sys_Random::Sys_Random() + 123 3 libSystem.B.dylib 0x911d185d _pthread_start + 345 4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x911d16e2 thread_start + 34 Thread 4: 0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x911a40fa mach_msg_trap + 10 1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x911a4867 mach_msg + 68 2 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9254137f __CFRunLoopRun + 2079 3 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x92540464 CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 452 4 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x925463a4 CFRunLoopRun + 84 5 com.digidesign.framework.DAE 0x03168f14 FicIsAlive + 800 6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x911d185d _pthread_start + 345 7 libSystem.B.dylib 0x911d16e2 thread_start + 34 Thread 5: 0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x911b00ca ioctl + 10 1 ...n.framework.PlatformSupport 0x0295f5a7 PSHardware_MatchDeviceInfo(TPSPCIDeviceInfo const*, TPSPCIDeviceInfo const*) + 6848 2 ...n.framework.PlatformSupport 0x029699d2 PSThreadTable_AddTable(SPSThreadPriorityEntry const*, unsigned long) + 311 3 com.digidesign.framework.DAE 0x031e366d FicReportExternalEvent + 136726 4 ...gn.framework.CoreFoundation 0x0033f246 Sys_RawThreadTask::Run() + 36 5 ...gn.framework.CoreFoundation 0x0035ca6a Sys_RawThread::ThreadIDsAreEqual(void*, void*) + 48 6 ...n.framework.PlatformSupport 0x0295f9af PSHardware_MatchDeviceInfo(TPSPCIDeviceInfo const*, TPSPCIDeviceInfo const*) + 7880 7 libSystem.B.dylib 0x911d185d _pthread_start + 345 8 libSystem.B.dylib 0x911d16e2 thread_start + 34 Thread 6: 0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x911a414e semaphore_timedwait_trap + 10 1 ...n.framework.PlatformSupport 0x02960549 PSHardware_MatchDeviceInfo(TPSPCIDeviceInfo const*, TPSPCIDeviceInfo const*) + 10850 2 com.digidesign.framework.DAE 0x0328c2f4 FicGetSyncPeripheral + 146792 3 com.digidesign.framework.DAE 0x0328c345 FicGetSyncPeripheral + 146873 4 ...n.framework.PlatformSupport 0x0295f9af PSHardware_MatchDeviceInfo(TPSPCIDeviceInfo const*, TPSPCIDeviceInfo const*) + 7880 5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x911d185d _pthread_start + 345 6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x911d16e2 thread_start + 34 Thread 7: 0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x911a414e semaphore_timedwait_trap + 10 1 ...n.framework.PlatformSupport 0x02960549 PSHardware_MatchDeviceInfo(TPSPCIDeviceInfo const*, TPSPCIDeviceInfo const*) + 10850 2 com.digidesign.framework.DAE 0x0328c2f4 FicGetSyncPeripheral + 146792 3 com.digidesign.framework.DAE 0x0328c345 FicGetSyncPeripheral + 146873 4 ...n.framework.PlatformSupport 0x0295f9af PSHardware_MatchDeviceInfo(TPSPCIDeviceInfo const*, TPSPCIDeviceInfo const*) + 7880 5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x911d185d _pthread_start + 345 6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x911d16e2 thread_start + 34 Thread 8: 0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x911a415a semaphore_timedwait_signal_trap + 10 1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x911d1ce5 _pthread_cond_wait + 1066 2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91200ac8 pthread_cond_timedwait_relative_np + 47 3 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x954dcecd TSWaitOnConditionTimedRelative + 242 4 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x954dcc0b TSWaitOnSemaphoreCommon + 511 5 ...ickTimeComponents.component 0x94afbd49 ReadSchedulerThreadEntryPoint + 4698 6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x911d185d _pthread_start + 345 7 libSystem.B.dylib 0x911d16e2 thread_start + 34 Thread 9: 0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x911a420e mach_wait_until + 10 1 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x95560828 MPDelayUntil + 43 2 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x9557024e Delay + 107 3 ...opellerheads.rewire.library 0x1a8007e8 RWPUnregisterDeviceImp + 21574 4 ...opellerheads.rewire.library 0x1a81ba5c RWPUnregisterDeviceImp + 132794 5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x911d185d _pthread_start + 345 6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x911d16e2 thread_start + 34 Thread 10: 0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x911a40fa mach_msg_trap + 10 1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x911a4867 mach_msg + 68 2 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9254137f __CFRunLoopRun + 2079 3 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x92540464 CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 452 4 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x925463a4 CFRunLoopRun + 84 5 com.apple.DVCPROHDMuxer 0x2416c0fb AVS::DestroyAVCDeviceController(AVS::AVCDeviceCont roller*) + 297 6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x911d185d _pthread_start + 345 7 libSystem.B.dylib 0x911d16e2 thread_start + 34 Thread 11: 0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x911b00ca ioctl + 10 1 ...n.framework.PlatformSupport 0x0295f5a7 PSHardware_MatchDeviceInfo(TPSPCIDeviceInfo const*, TPSPCIDeviceInfo const*) + 6848 2 com.digidesign.framework.DAE 0x0320bbe2 FWAudioCallback + 126192 3 ...n.framework.PlatformSupport 0x0295f9af PSHardware_MatchDeviceInfo(TPSPCIDeviceInfo const*, TPSPCIDeviceInfo const*) + 7880 4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x911d185d _pthread_start + 345 5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x911d16e2 thread_start + 34 Thread 12: 0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x911b00ca ioctl + 10 1 ...n.framework.PlatformSupport 0x0295f5a7 PSHardware_MatchDeviceInfo(TPSPCIDeviceInfo const*, TPSPCIDeviceInfo const*) + 6848 2 ...n.framework.PlatformSupport 0x029699d2 PSThreadTable_AddTable(SPSThreadPriorityEntry const*, unsigned long) + 311 3 ...gn.framework.CoreFoundation 0x0035c7ee Sys_BlockingTimer::Destroy(Sys_BlockingTimer*&) + 840 4 ...gn.framework.CoreFoundation 0x0033f29a Sys_RawThreadTimerTask::Exec() + 54 5 ...gn.framework.CoreFoundation 0x0033f246 Sys_RawThreadTask::Run() + 36 6 ...gn.framework.CoreFoundation 0x0035ca6a Sys_RawThread::ThreadIDsAreEqual(void*, void*) + 48 7 ...n.framework.PlatformSupport 0x0295f9af PSHardware_MatchDeviceInfo(TPSPCIDeviceInfo const*, TPSPCIDeviceInfo const*) + 7880 8 libSystem.B.dylib 0x911d185d _pthread_start + 345 9 libSystem.B.dylib 0x911d16e2 thread_start + 34 Thread 13: 0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x911b00ca ioctl + 10 1 ...n.framework.PlatformSupport 0x0295f5a7 PSHardware_MatchDeviceInfo(TPSPCIDeviceInfo const*, TPSPCIDeviceInfo const*) + 6848 2 com.digidesign.framework.DAE 0x032882f5 FicGetSyncPeripheral + 130409 3 ...gn.framework.CoreFoundation 0x0033f246 Sys_RawThreadTask::Run() + 36 4 ...gn.framework.CoreFoundation 0x0035ca6a Sys_RawThread::ThreadIDsAreEqual(void*, void*) + 48 5 ...n.framework.PlatformSupport 0x0295f9af PSHardware_MatchDeviceInfo(TPSPCIDeviceInfo const*, TPSPCIDeviceInfo const*) + 7880 6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x911d185d _pthread_start + 345 7 libSystem.B.dylib 0x911d16e2 thread_start + 34 Thread 14: 0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x911a40fa mach_msg_trap + 10 1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x911a4867 mach_msg + 68 2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x912a203a mach_msg_receive + 63 3 ...n.framework.PlatformSupport 0x0295e28c PSHardware_MatchDeviceInfo(TPSPCIDeviceInfo const*, TPSPCIDeviceInfo const*) + 1957 4 ...n.framework.PlatformSupport 0x0295f9af PSHardware_MatchDeviceInfo(TPSPCIDeviceInfo const*, TPSPCIDeviceInfo const*) + 7880 5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x911d185d _pthread_start + 345 6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x911d16e2 thread_start + 34 Thread 15 Crashed: 0 dyld 0x8fe11f32 misaligned_stack_error + 0 1 ...gn.framework.CoreFoundation 0x002cb691 Cmn_StackDump::Cmn_StackDump() + 87 2 ...gn.framework.CoreFoundation 0x003605c3 Sys_MachExceptionHandler::Init(bool) + 525 3 ...gidesign.framework.ProTools 0x00de6061 0x7db000 + 6336609 4 ...gidesign.framework.ProTools 0x0135d1ff 0x7db000 + 12067327 5 ...gidesign.framework.ProTools 0x00f5e341 0x7db000 + 7877441 6 ...gidesign.framework.ProTools 0x0119ea9f 0x7db000 + 10238623 7 ...gidesign.framework.ProTools 0x0119ecbf 0x7db000 + 10239167 8 ...gidesign.framework.ProTools 0x00f64990 0x7db000 + 7903632 9 ...gn.framework.CoreFoundation 0x0033f2ea Sys_RawThreadTimerTask::Exec() + 134 10 ...gn.framework.CoreFoundation 0x0033f246 Sys_RawThreadTask::Run() + 36 11 ...gn.framework.CoreFoundation 0x0035ca6a Sys_RawThread::ThreadIDsAreEqual(void*, void*) + 48 12 ...n.framework.PlatformSupport 0x0295f9af PSHardware_MatchDeviceInfo(TPSPCIDeviceInfo const*, TPSPCIDeviceInfo const*) + 7880 13 libSystem.B.dylib 0x911d185d _pthread_start + 345 14 libSystem.B.dylib 0x911d16e2 thread_start + 34 Thread 16: 0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x911a4142 semaphore_wait_signal_trap + 10 1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x911a9c46 pthread_mutex_lock + 490 2 ...n.framework.PlatformSupport 0x0296073f PSHardware_MatchDeviceInfo(TPSPCIDeviceInfo const*, TPSPCIDeviceInfo const*) + 11352 3 ...gn.framework.CoreFoundation 0x0033f2be Sys_RawThreadTimerTask::Exec() + 90 4 ...gn.framework.CoreFoundation 0x0033f246 Sys_RawThreadTask::Run() + 36 5 ...gn.framework.CoreFoundation 0x0035ca6a Sys_RawThread::ThreadIDsAreEqual(void*, void*) + 48 6 ...n.framework.PlatformSupport 0x0295f9af PSHardware_MatchDeviceInfo(TPSPCIDeviceInfo const*, TPSPCIDeviceInfo const*) + 7880 7 libSystem.B.dylib 0x911d185d _pthread_start + 345 8 libSystem.B.dylib 0x911d16e2 thread_start + 34 Thread 17: 0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x911b00ca ioctl + 10 1 ...n.framework.PlatformSupport 0x0295f5a7 PSHardware_MatchDeviceInfo(TPSPCIDeviceInfo const*, TPSPCIDeviceInfo const*) + 6848 2 ...n.framework.PlatformSupport 0x029699d2 PSThreadTable_AddTable(SPSThreadPriorityEntry const*, unsigned long) + 311 3 ...gidesign.framework.ProTools 0x01546f15 TRulerSelectionLayer_ForwardDeclarationHack::Remov eReference(TRulerSelectionLayer*) + 574117 4 ...gidesign.framework.ProTools 0x0154732a TRulerSelectionLayer_ForwardDeclarationHack::Remov eReference(TRulerSelectionLayer*) + 575162 5 ...gn.framework.CoreFoundation 0x0033f246 Sys_RawThreadTask::Run() + 36 6 ...gn.framework.CoreFoundation 0x0035ca6a Sys_RawThread::ThreadIDsAreEqual(void*, void*) + 48 7 ...n.framework.PlatformSupport 0x0295f9af PSHardware_MatchDeviceInfo(TPSPCIDeviceInfo const*, TPSPCIDeviceInfo const*) + 7880 8 libSystem.B.dylib 0x911d185d _pthread_start + 345 9 libSystem.B.dylib 0x911d16e2 thread_start + 34 Thread 18: 0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x911b00ca ioctl + 10 1 ...n.framework.PlatformSupport 0x0295f5a7 PSHardware_MatchDeviceInfo(TPSPCIDeviceInfo const*, TPSPCIDeviceInfo const*) + 6848 2 ...n.framework.PlatformSupport 0x029699d2 PSThreadTable_AddTable(SPSThreadPriorityEntry const*, unsigned long) + 311 3 ...gidesign.framework.ProTools 0x01546f15 TRulerSelectionLayer_ForwardDeclarationHack::Remov eReference(TRulerSelectionLayer*) + 574117 4 ...gidesign.framework.ProTools 0x01546f39 TRulerSelectionLayer_ForwardDeclarationHack::Remov eReference(TRulerSelectionLayer*) + 574153 5 ...gn.framework.CoreFoundation 0x0033f246 Sys_RawThreadTask::Run() + 36 6 ...gn.framework.CoreFoundation 0x0035ca6a Sys_RawThread::ThreadIDsAreEqual(void*, void*) + 48 7 ...n.framework.PlatformSupport 0x0295f9af PSHardware_MatchDeviceInfo(TPSPCIDeviceInfo const*, TPSPCIDeviceInfo const*) + 7880 8 libSystem.B.dylib 0x911d185d _pthread_start + 345 9 libSystem.B.dylib 0x911d16e2 thread_start + 34 ........... Thread 15 crashed with X86 Thread State (32-bit): eax: 0x004f4560 ebx: 0x002cb64b ecx: 0x00000000 edx: 0x00309875 edi: 0x00000000 esi: 0x35f1e600 ebp: 0xb07a5ae0 esp: 0xb07a5a78 ss: 0x0000001f efl: 0x00010292 eip: 0x8fe11f32 cs: 0x00000017 ds: 0x0000001f es: 0x0000001f fs: 0x0000001f gs: 0x00000037 cr2: 0x00000031

Chris, Thanks for responding. Yes prefs are good. I should also note this is the only session that appears to have this problem, and it occurs on all our computers. And yes Plugins good too. Thanks!

Hi formfunction, I tried importing session data, linking, and copying. both times the session still crashes on close, then upon reopening PT the computer crashes. I care because this is a session i need to access and its highly inconvenient for me to have to restart the computer every time I need to close the session. I have troubleshooted and followed the sticky instructions, and have submitted my crash log so anyone who might be able to help could. Thanks

Thanks Crizdee. I tried the deactivating and found that trim was the plugin that seems to be crashing the session, but after I removed it from the session it still crashed! so im gonna keep trucking and see if there are 2 bad plugins. thanks again.